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 #361381  by M-Pressive
 
I am currently researching the Prowler setup in hopes of finding one.

Seems like the easiest route but I won't stop there if it does not pan out.

I am also in talks with R1 concepts about a brake sponsorship for 2017. I would have access to their entire database of setups and may be able to find something there.

Keep the good info coming!
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 #361388  by LUNAT1C
 
According to folks at DAMM, NSRT to Neon brake conversion requires the NSRT spindle. No surprise. Unless the NSRT spindle works with the LH hubs, bearings ,struts, control arms, axles, etc, probably not going to work without custom spindles ($$$$$).
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 #361472  by Sonicrob
 
LUNAT1C wrote:According to folks at DAMM, NSRT to Neon brake conversion requires the NSRT spindle. No surprise. Unless the NSRT spindle works with the LH hubs, bearings ,struts, control arms, axles, etc, probably not going to work without custom spindles ($$$$$).

Maybe the NSFT spindle could be modified to fit? I'm just hoping for a miracle here. They really don't make it easy for us :(
 #361489  by snstr_auto
 
sonicrob wrote:
LUNAT1C wrote:According to folks at DAMM, NSRT to Neon brake conversion requires the NSRT spindle. No surprise. Unless the NSRT spindle works with the LH hubs, bearings ,struts, control arms, axles, etc, probably not going to work without custom spindles ($$$$$).

Maybe the NSFT spindle could be modified to fit? I'm just hoping for a miracle here. They really don't make it easy for us :(

Probably easily doable honestly. Ream out the hole for the lower ball joint... as long as both hubs are 4 bolts held to the spindle...
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 #361496  by M-Pressive
 
Is there a place that would have some of the important measurements?

I am going to make this happen once the cold months set in.
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 #361507  by 00R/T
 
I personally think trying to modify anything from a neon is a waste of effort. The only similarity between the two is that they're both made by Chrysler.

The SRT-4 rotors are 3/4" smaller in diameter than the LH ones. They use a 5x100 bolt pattern vs our 5x114.3, so their rotors aren't going to go on our hubs. You can forget using our hubs on their knuckle as they use a press-fit cartridge bearing design which is completely different than the tri-bolt unit bearings we have.

Personally, I would be looking at the LX SRT. Robert mentioned the LX calipers using a bracket, but that's only on the non-SRT. The Brembo calipers mount directly to the knuckle and there are no guides, slides, boots, etc. because the calipers don't move. That means all you need to do is securely mount them to the knuckle in the right location and they'll work. With a custom machined bracket, I think they have a very good chance of working.
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 #361511  by LUNAT1C
 
If someone has access to Brembo calipers and spare LH knuckles, it can be investigated. I figured the NSRT brake upgrade was lost due to the knuckle.

The stock knuckle would have to be modified to allow the larger rotor to clear the bits the stock LH caliper rests on, so it's not just a matter of making a bracket.

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 #361532  by paintballdude05
 
I've got spare knuckles, they're probably not worth shipping though.
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 #361540  by M-Pressive
 
LUNAT1C wrote:The stock knuckle would have to be modified to allow the larger rotor to clear the bits the stock LH caliper rests on, so it's not just a matter of making a bracket.
This is my main concern. I can have a bracket made but would need to figure out how to work around/remove these.
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 #361547  by Sneke_Eyez
 
We can modify the knuckle probably, Keith.
We just need a set of Brembos from an LX (or something else) to try.

If this is something really important to you we can try snagging the knuckles off of my Special parts car or a junkyard car.
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 #361550  by M-Pressive
 
Sneke_Eyez wrote:We can modify the knuckle probably, Keith.
We just need a set of Brembos from an LX (or something else) to try.

If this is something really important to you we can try snagging the knuckles off of my Special parts car or a junkyard car.
That may be a good idea if we can get them.
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 #361552  by Sneke_Eyez
 
M-Pressive wrote:
Sneke_Eyez wrote:We can modify the knuckle probably, Keith.
We just need a set of Brembos from an LX (or something else) to try.

If this is something really important to you we can try snagging the knuckles off of my Special parts car or a junkyard car.
That may be a good idea if we can get them.
We can get them - this is why I have a battery impact gun!
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 #361569  by paintballdude05
 
It probably doesn't matter, but there are two different knuckles for the LH cars. Some early Intrepids and Concordes that had 15" wheels got a different knuckle for smaller brake rotors.
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 #361572  by Sneke_Eyez
 
paintballdude05 wrote:It probably doesn't matter, but there are two different knuckles for the LH cars. Some early Intrepids and Concordes that had 15" wheels got a different knuckle for smaller brake rotors.
Yeah, I don't even remember the last time I saw one of those in a yard.

Saw a 98 Base though the other day with them and the hubcaps...
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 #361574  by tafi300M
 
Somebody gimme a defination of "big". Link from snstr auto shows rotors up to 405mm, but $4500 once again. :-(
 #361576  by 00R/T
 
tafi300M wrote:Somebody gimme a defination of "big". Link from snstr auto shows rotors up to 405mm, but $4500 once again. :-(
The SRT rotors are 360mm/350mm F/R.
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 #363606  by Shawn1301
 
Seen a "suggested post" on Facebook from CIEKA.
They make custom big brake kits, and coil overs. They seem like they would be interested to make a set, not sure on costs as they're unsure of the specs.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... ef=m_notif

I don't have time nor a dry space to take things apart to measure. But they may be a route to go.